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Sol Hando's avatar

I think a modern study would show something quite different when comparing the UK and US today, rather than in 2007.

I see that the study took historical comparisons and analyzed change over time, but the most recent data seems to be from 2007 (and if I understand right, is referring to 2006). In 2007, the UK actually had higher GDP-per-capita than the US (if not as high incomes), so any comparison between the two that ended on that high note would certainly favor European social safety nets and higher equality.

If the consequence of the European system is significantly less growth (or even stagnation) in the long run, then it's uncertain if it's actually welfare producing. The UK and US had comparable GDP-per-capita prior to the GFC (The UK's was temporarily higher even), whereas today it's ~60% that of the US. Cheap healthcare and a strong social safety net is great for quality of life, but if the increased taxes that funds that welfare, and the decreased competitiveness of a more worker-friendly policy causes significantly less economic growth, the welfare might not be sustainable in the long run.

If you compare someone who retired at 60, with someone who retired at 80, the 60 year old would certainly have higher (or at least comparable) welfare to the working man, despite 20 years of lost income. Our retired-at-60 guy comes out ahead in terms of welfare, since there isn't enough time left for the 80 year old to reap the rewards of his increased efforts. If Mr. 60 found out they just invented immortality he would suddenly be *way* behind Mr. 80 in expected welfare. Mr. 80 now has a multi-million dollar portfolio to live off of, while Mr. 60 is stuck consuming his smaller pension, having spent down his savings on consumption during retirement. Mr. 60 could go back to work, but due to 20 years of missed compounding, and the difficulty of reentering the workforce, it might take up to half a century to catch back up.

Nations are effectively immortal, so a nation that transitions to a "retired" model of increased leisure, but lower income sooner, might end up significantly behind a nation that never "retired" or did so to a lesser extent. During the romance years, where the US was still increasing productivity while sacrificing quality of life, and the UK was enjoying quality of life while sacrificing productivity, the data would reveal the UK to be comparable or even superior. After the golden years, things might look a lot different, with quality of life even declining in the UK.

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Radek's avatar

The Chinese families net worth is not several time that of US families. That's simply delusional

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